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[liliaeth]

I think I'm starting to have a problem in both Supernatural's RPS as well as the FPS fandom.

Lately I've started to notice more and more people writing Jared, or even worse, Sam, as the bottom in the pairing. (at least with Jared there's no canon personality to do away with, but Sam is so obviously a top in canon that putting him as the bottom in any pairing pulls me right out of the story) That along with the rise of Misha/Castiel centric kink fic. I don't like it, and not just for aesthetic reasons.

I know it's nobody elses problem but mine, but I'm just not as emotionally attached to Jared, Sam, Misha or Castiel as I am to Dean and Jensen. And I really dislike reading Jensen or Dean written as the top. It just doesn't suit either character, at all(Dean is just so deliciously submissive in most of his interactions with women and he looks so pretty when dominated, that having him on top just takes something away from his potential). Well that and I tend to emotionally invest in the bottom in the pairing. So if you put a character I'm not as invested in, as the bottom of the pairing, I just won't connect as strongly to your fic as I would to one with Jensen or Dean as the bottom.

It's annoying really, when fandom seems to be moving in a direction that holds little to no interest to me, and I wish there was a way to get more people back into writing Dean or Jensen as the bottom *pouts*

Also added on to this...

If you want me to start liking Sam again after s8, then the answer isn't Dean finding out just how bad Sam really had it while Dean was in Purgatory, cause right now, I find it hard enough to have sympathy with Sam, without the writer having Dean needing to start feeling sorry for his brother.

What I need to read is Sam realizing just how bad things were for his brother in Purgatory, him to start feeling sorry for what he did to his brother and maybe possibly, him starting to show some remorse over his attitude towards his brother.

I find it hard enough to keep liking Sam, and the very last thing I need is someone going on the woe poor Sam path, cause right now, I just don't fucking care.

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[serendip50.livejournal.com]

I feel like you...I have noticed especially in the kink memes an abundance of bottom Jared more so than in previous years. However, I flick through journals that I know write bottom Jensen or Dean and read fics which I perhaps missed from the past or even recent. I also have many older and new fics featuring bottom Jensen or Dean in my extensive reading list...so.

I follow, track only those writers whom I know write the bottom of my preference. Though I would say that a lot of these authors, from even a year ago, seem to have left this fandom or moved to another site and of course that only exacerbates the irritation you highlight. In some cases they are just more involved in rl and find it difficult to post regularly.

It's disheartening when some of the most prolific writers whom I followed, and dare I say wonderfully expansive (lengthy involved stories) imaginative and cognitive in their writing, have left:(.

I love J2 .... but more and more I am thinking of finding another pairing that speaks to me as these two have done for so many years:).
Having said that there are still writers out there that I track for their bottom Jensen stories. I'm not so invested in Sam/Dean.

[liliaeth]

This might be odd, but I only seem to be interested in Sam/Dean if Sam's evil... (or if it's an au where they aren't brothers. To me, pairing them up cheapens the relationship they do have)

I think a big problem for me in the majority of Sam/Dean fics is that they treat it as normal, as if the part where they're brothers is just a minor obstacle that everyone around them will just ignore. (well that and most Sam/Dean fics seem to fall in a trap of where the story becomes all about them being together and having sex, instead of about the supposed plot...)

Oddly enough, with some exceptions, J2 doesn't seem to suffer from those issues, whereas I'll only read destiel if Cas is the top/dominant partner in the relationship.

The ones with Cas as the bottom, just feel off to me. (I think it's because far too many people make Cas way too nice compared to how he is in canon. Cas might be funny from our perspective, but even when he was insane on the show he wasn't 'sweet'. And a lot of destiel writers who write Castiel as submissive seem to ignore that, too focused on the angel part to keep the 'warrior of God' part in mind.

But the one thing that'll pull me out of a fic faster than anything, is someone writing a J2 fic with bottom Jared, where Jensen calls Jared 'little one'.

Cause then I'm sitting there wondering if they've ever even seen a picture of Jared...

[serendip50.livejournal.com]

WOW....I do believe we like to read exactly the same type of stories in every dynamic and genre:). If I read Sam/Dean it would preferably be a take on evil!Sam. One of my most favourite authors leonidaslion (who moved to AOO some time ago) wrote the most satisfying, gorgeous and prevalent of this trope. Other writers who have since left but wrote stunning bottom Dean or Jensen fic were blynnk, titheniel, splashpink and slashboyz of those I remember....Oh how I miss them!
I also prefer to read top Cas (or Misha) and my favourite author for destiel remains the indefatigable highermagic. She is resplendent and imaginative in her story telling. Actually I think she might be the only author I read for Cas/Dean....lol. Not really a big enough kink for me.

Atm I'm reading from...Fedaykin_here, meus_venator, alezig, ashtraythief, ash_carpenter, saltandburnboys and silica_glass amongst a few that are still posting.

Which authors do you read/recommend for your bottom Jensen or Dean fix?

[liliaeth]

I suck at remembering author names*g*, but I'm currently following Carry on by TamrynEradani, which is a destiel au. (for some reason I seem to like destiel human au better than the more canonical kind)

It's bottom Dean (of course) and has Dean as a paid submissive working for Castiel, in order to pay Sam's college expenses. What's so interesting about it, is that it's praisekink. There's bdsm, but it's more about Cas building Dean up, than the usual humiliation often found in bdsm stories.

I should probably also mention that I think I already have all those people you mentioned friended on lj*eg*

[serendip50.livejournal.com]

Thank you for the rec...I will definitely take a look:)...I don't know that writer.
I forgot to mention the delectably awesome and totally original Soncnica! Great stories from her...and loads on the horizon according to her last post, I hope they are preferable dynamics!, they usually are.:).

Have you read The Doors of Time? I rather think everyone has....lol.

[serendip50.livejournal.com]

Wooohooo...Carry On has loads of chapters. I love the longer stories they are much more developed.