Oh I've found Dean on obvious submissive from s1 on. I've never seen him as even remotely dominant in any of his relationships.
I think the worst part of s8, is that they could have easily solved half the problem with Sam, if they'd had him mention that he tried to look for Dean, and didn't have a clue where even to begin, or that he tried, and failed.
My biggest issue never was about Sam not finding Dean, it's that as far as we've seen in canon, he never even bothered to look.
Hell I was all for Dean being with Lisa, because if he hadn't had her, he'd probably have gotten himself killed within a week. But... we know that he did try to find a way to get Sam out of hell and couldn't find anything.
And that's the writer's fault, because they should have given Sam the same out. (Well that and they should have made Sam's relationship with Amelia more interesting, maybe show Sam as more of an outsider in an attempt at a regular life, anything to put some life in that relationship, other than make it a soap opera)
And then they worsened the issue there already was with Sam, by having him act as if Dean being back was an annoyance that got in the way of his chance at a normal life for most of the first half of the season, constantly threatening to leave.
It's why the final scene of s8 utterly fell flat for me, because all of a sudden we're supposed to believe that Sam feels bad about letting Dean down, when he clearly didn't give a fuck about any of that before in the first half of the season. (well that and it felt like though he didn't want Dean, he didn't want Dean to have anyone else either)
I mean, a lot of people complain about Sera, but at least her Sam, even when he was soulless, still felt like the same character. The Sam in s8 was completely disconnected from the Sam of the first seven seasons.
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Re: Connecting to S8 Sam
Date: 2013-06-25 10:42 am (UTC)I think the worst part of s8, is that they could have easily solved half the problem with Sam, if they'd had him mention that he tried to look for Dean, and didn't have a clue where even to begin, or that he tried, and failed.
My biggest issue never was about Sam not finding Dean, it's that as far as we've seen in canon, he never even bothered to look.
Hell I was all for Dean being with Lisa, because if he hadn't had her, he'd probably have gotten himself killed within a week. But... we know that he did try to find a way to get Sam out of hell and couldn't find anything.
And that's the writer's fault, because they should have given Sam the same out. (Well that and they should have made Sam's relationship with Amelia more interesting, maybe show Sam as more of an outsider in an attempt at a regular life, anything to put some life in that relationship, other than make it a soap opera)
And then they worsened the issue there already was with Sam, by having him act as if Dean being back was an annoyance that got in the way of his chance at a normal life for most of the first half of the season, constantly threatening to leave.
It's why the final scene of s8 utterly fell flat for me, because all of a sudden we're supposed to believe that Sam feels bad about letting Dean down, when he clearly didn't give a fuck about any of that before in the first half of the season. (well that and it felt like though he didn't want Dean, he didn't want Dean to have anyone else either)
I mean, a lot of people complain about Sera, but at least her Sam, even when he was soulless, still felt like the same character. The Sam in s8 was completely disconnected from the Sam of the first seven seasons.