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There is no faster way to get me to stop reading your fic, no matter how good it might be otherwise, than by turning Dean or Jensen into the bad guy/asshole/whatever…

I hate bashing in general, but if your writing requires you to insult, denigrate or jerkify Dean or Jensen, then you lose all my interest.

I may have serious issues with Sam right now, and I think he behaved like an asshole in s8-s9, but I’ll also still stop reading if you claim Sam being evil is in character. Rather than an AU.

(hey I like the occasional evil Sam and evil Cas, but then I want it made clear up ahead that Sam’s evil and that thus regular characterization does not apply. And I prefer there being some reason as to why Sam or Cas are behaving the way they are )

I unfortunately do not have the same exemption for Dean. I respect your right to see things differently, but I have little to no interest in reading about Dean being evil. Which is going to cause serious trouble with my enjoyment of s10 of SPN, of which I am well aware.

Maybe it's because I quite simply care for and identify with Jensen/Dean more than I do with Jared/Sam or Misha/Cas, but I just can't help it...

Date: 2014-06-23 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skeletncloset.livejournal.com
I'm a Dean-girl but I hate Sam bashing too. I also hate when tptb assassinate his character. There are certain criteria that must be met in order for me to accept Sam as an evil guy. He has to be in boy!kink/blood-drinker/sammifer mode. He can't be Evil for no reason.

Demon!Dean would never hurt Sam. It's out of character not only because it's not Dean's MO but because SAM HAS BEEN THE ONLY ONE ABLE TO TALK HIM OUT OF HIS BLOODLUST!

SAM GROUNDS HIM! Dean's said Sam makes him human, brings out the best in him. And it's true because when Sam isn't around, be it physically or emotionally, Dean goes psycho.

Date: 2014-06-23 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
It's weird. I'm reading this thinking YEA! and then it occurred to me... wait... I think it's horrible to make him evil, but I wrote a story where a hellhound fucked him. I think I"m bowing out of any high ground now.

Date: 2014-06-24 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saltandburnboys.livejournal.com
Urghhh, don't even get me started...I think I'm one of the very few people who's really worried about season ten. For me, it's like the writers seem to have this kind of tally thing going on right now where whatever they do to Sam, they have to do to Dean. So because we had Sam treading the dark side back in season four, we have to have Dean do it too...WHICH WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. NOPE. NO. NOPE. I hate when they try and make the characters the same - they're not the same and that's why the show works so well. They have completely opposite viewpoints on the world - except when it comes to each other - and that leads them to make very different decisions.

God, they better not make Dean evil...I will be so fucking angry...

xx

Date: 2014-06-24 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamsofspike.livejournal.com
I will say that I'm very glad you clarified that it's a preference thing. :P

To this point, I haven't written any evil ANYONE fics (though I have an evil, soulless!Sam fic in the works that I haven't officially started yet). But in every fandom I've been in, I've found it fun and challenging to try and write darker interpretations of the lead characters, see what circumstances and situations could twist them into doing terrible things, and portray it in as realistic and emotionally effective a manner as possible.

So basically I'm saying... I can't guarantee I'll never do that to Dean? Just like I'm about to do it to Sam, for example. But I'll definitely warn for that kind of thing when/if it happens, because I don't want anyone to be caught off guard. :P

You definitely raise an interesting viewpoint.

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