"I just can't picture Jared or Sam as the bottom. Sam is a complete control freak and, if you look at every single sex scene he's ever had on the show, he dominated the hell out of his women. dean just doesn't. He craves guidance, leadership...he's the perfect little soldier - he's submissive at heart, in my opinion, and so damn desperate to be loved, I just can't see him dominating anyone. To be fair, making that canon was the reason I loved the Amazon episode...that girl topped the hell out of him."
Hi, I just see this part differently. Just trying to give my perspective. In SPN these sex scenes are used to depict the mentality of the character's at that point of time. Sex scene in 'Heart' came at the time when Sam was supposed to go dark side. Same with Ruby ie he was already choosing the dark side. So I think its shown rough. Same with soulless sam. Its like they show how he is not himself/falling through slippery slope in a way. Now in contrast to that we have scene with Anna. Here Dean is damaged/he is looking for forgiveness cause he feels guilty for torturing souls in hell. Their lovemaking reflects that. Its not out of desperation like in Sam's case. Finally regarding the amazon episode. I agree the girl topped the hell out of him. But you know what she is an amazon she is supposed to. If she was passive/submissive then her being a supernatural warrior(she was not human)would have been laughable. I confess that I am not very much aware of Dom/Sub dynamics(not that much into it) but to me one who cares about others doesn't mean submissive. Dean usually is the one who leads. We can see that in purgatory very well. So I really have to disagree with daddy's little soldier comment. Usually a good leader is the one who is adaptable, innovative, takes responsibility of his and other's actions and can follow others if required. According to me Dean fits this. But as Einstein said there is no absolute truth. We all see what we want to see.
"I haven't seen season eight but I'm already irritated that they gave the storyline to Sam. I love Sam, I do, but I've always seen the show as being about dean and those trials would've been a perfect story arc for him...and we've just had crazy!Sam for like half a series... Coz to me, with everything I've read, they seem to have just skimmed over all his PTSD and how Sam FREAKING DIDN'T LOOK FOR HIM! How he didn't even try!!"
Completely agree with you. In fact I have stopped watching the supernatural after first half of season. I am really not into watching Dean doing house work/bending over for everyone in general. That is not the character I fell in love with. When there is no balance in a relationship then it becomes painful to watch.
"God, do I feel you on the abundance of bottom! Jared prompts and stories at the moment. I've had to stop tracking SPN kink meme prompts because of it. In the case of SPN kink meme, I genuinely think it's just a couple of people going on mad posting sprees and as much as I'm fine with people posting whatever they want...could they just maybe leave a little bit of a break between there re-prompts of every bottom!Jared prompt that's ever been posted?"
Hey I could replace bottom!Jared with bottom!Jensen in your comment and its me:) Anyhow I know it feels really frustrating when someone cant get what they really want to read. I mean I tried reading bottom!Jensen recently and literally throw up. But think positive, you are in a better place than me. You can check this year's bigbang and get a lot of bottom!Dean/Jensen stories.
Now I have to end this rant. I sincerely apologize if I offended you in any way or jumped in without an invite. And English is not my first language so sorry for any mistakes.
@liliaeth -If this discussion is not welcome please let me know and I will delete my comments.(I can right? Still new to LJ). Have a good day.
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Date: 2013-06-28 05:35 pm (UTC)Hi, I just see this part differently. Just trying to give my perspective. In SPN these sex scenes are used to depict the mentality of the character's at that point of time. Sex scene in 'Heart' came at the time when Sam was supposed to go dark side. Same with Ruby ie he was already choosing the dark side. So I think its shown rough. Same with soulless sam. Its like they show how he is not himself/falling through slippery slope in a way.
Now in contrast to that we have scene with Anna. Here Dean is damaged/he is looking for forgiveness cause he feels guilty for torturing souls in hell. Their lovemaking reflects that. Its not out of desperation like in Sam's case. Finally regarding the amazon episode. I agree the girl topped the hell out of him. But you know what she is an amazon she is supposed to. If she was passive/submissive then her being a supernatural warrior(she was not human)would have been laughable.
I confess that I am not very much aware of Dom/Sub dynamics(not that much into it) but to me one who cares about others doesn't mean submissive. Dean usually is the one who leads. We can see that in purgatory very well. So I really have to disagree with daddy's little soldier comment. Usually a good leader is the one who is adaptable, innovative, takes responsibility of his and other's actions and can follow others if required. According to me Dean fits this. But as Einstein said there is no absolute truth. We all see what we want to see.
"I haven't seen season eight but I'm already irritated that they gave the storyline to Sam. I love Sam, I do, but I've always seen the show as being about dean and those trials would've been a perfect story arc for him...and we've just had crazy!Sam for like half a series... Coz to me, with everything I've read, they seem to have just skimmed over all his PTSD and how Sam FREAKING DIDN'T LOOK FOR HIM! How he didn't even try!!"
Completely agree with you. In fact I have stopped watching the supernatural after first half of season. I am really not into watching Dean doing house work/bending over for everyone in general. That is not the character I fell in love with. When there is no balance in a relationship then it becomes painful to watch.
"God, do I feel you on the abundance of bottom! Jared prompts and stories at the moment. I've had to stop tracking SPN kink meme prompts because of it. In the case of SPN kink meme, I genuinely think it's just a couple of people going on mad posting sprees and as much as I'm fine with people posting whatever they want...could they just maybe leave a little bit of a break between there re-prompts of every bottom!Jared prompt that's ever been posted?"
Hey I could replace bottom!Jared with bottom!Jensen in your comment and its me:) Anyhow I know it feels really frustrating when someone cant get what they really want to read. I mean I tried reading bottom!Jensen recently and literally throw up. But think positive, you are in a better place than me. You can check this year's bigbang and get a lot of bottom!Dean/Jensen stories.
Now I have to end this rant. I sincerely apologize if I offended you in any way or jumped in without an invite. And English is not my first language so sorry for any mistakes.
@liliaeth -If this discussion is not welcome please let me know and I will delete my comments.(I can right? Still new to LJ).
Have a good day.