Okay I understand from where you are coming. But I think there is a fundamental difference in the way we watch the show. For me I started watching because of dean. Still remember watching skin and thinking that this is going to be my fav show. So I saw/still see that hero in dean. The unsung hero who sacrifices himself for higher good be it saving people, family or world. yeah he is damaged but who isn't and frankly for me it was great that he overcame that damage (to some extent) by himself and enjoyed hunting. So even when he sold his soul I could understand cause I would've done the same for my sister in those circumstances. So what attracted me to this character was his strength and attitude. And after hell JA portrayed the trauma very realistic and I felt like even when he is shattered he held that inner strength. I liked the character very much till first half of the 5th season.
For me dean never was submissive, he was merely doing what needs to be done and usually he was left with no option but follow. Sam had/might still have issues with pride and dean had to make difficult decisions esp in season 5 and I cant blame him as world was at stake. I really don't want to talk about second half of 5th season because that is a can of worms waiting to be opened. So overall I admired Dean even with his issues.
I think where we really differ is this. I am not interested in emotions that much. And even if Dean is damaged to great extent due to all the experiences he had, I'd like him to overcome them by himself. I don't want him to be protected/cherished/comforted by other characters. To me he is a warrior/protector(that does not mean I want him to be sam's or anyone else's caretaker...no) I want him to have a voice and demand whenever he is mistreated like we all do. All the angst is pointless after sometime. My belief is only one who can help someone is themselves only.
And I would like to see dean in a position of power. That's because he is the only one who doesn't want/misuse it. So he deserves it. But prob that would never happen. Or he should let go and snap like stop being the moral center of the show.That would give a new turn to the show. But again that's my day dreaming. Because of all these I can never see him as bottom in any relationship its like some cosmic imbalance to me. It was really great chatting with you. I have other thoughts on what you posted about the portraying of top/bottom in the fandom but I think I rant too much as it is. If you like we can continue the discussion. Anyhow have a good day.
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Date: 2013-06-25 05:48 pm (UTC)For me dean never was submissive, he was merely doing what needs to be done and usually he was left with no option but follow. Sam had/might still have issues with pride and dean had to make difficult decisions esp in season 5 and I cant blame him as world was at stake. I really don't want to talk about second half of 5th season because that is a can of worms waiting to be opened. So overall I admired Dean even with his issues.
I think where we really differ is this. I am not interested in emotions that much. And even if Dean is damaged to great extent due to all the experiences he had, I'd like him to overcome them by himself. I don't want him to be protected/cherished/comforted by other characters. To me he is a warrior/protector(that does not mean I want him to be sam's or anyone else's caretaker...no) I want him to have a voice and demand whenever he is mistreated like we all do. All the angst is pointless after sometime. My belief is only one who can help someone is themselves only.
And I would like to see dean in a position of power. That's because he is the only one who doesn't want/misuse it. So he deserves it. But prob that would never happen. Or he should let go and snap like stop being the moral center of the show.That would give a new turn to the show. But again that's my day dreaming. Because of all these I can never see him as bottom in any relationship its like some cosmic imbalance to me. It was really great chatting with you. I have other thoughts on what you posted about the portraying of top/bottom in the fandom but I think I rant too much as it is. If you like we can continue the discussion. Anyhow have a good day.